… the best way to say “thank you” in Japan is to…that’s right, JAM IT IN.
Mischif (2010/01/05)
I recently had a nice conversation with a friend. It simply started out with our favorite artists and their artwork and the genres they usually draw. Of course, given that kind of topic, one thing led to another, and eventually, we found ourselves openly talking about porn. Yes. Porn.
And since it’s a post about porn, let’s tag it as NOT SAFE FOR WORK before we go tackle the juicy parts.
Rule 34: Hentai, ecchi, yaoi, yuri, call it whatever you want to call it. You can never consider yourself a fan if you can’t consider having earthly desires for the cause.
We humans are a species of love and admiration. We admire and love a lot of things, and that includes anime, manga, games, and everything that is to modern Japanese visual culture. We can’t kill or limit these feelings. They only grow stronger, more passionate. Next thing you know, you’re already holding your wang or playing with your clit, all while “loving” or “admiring” an erotic picture of a character you like, a show you watch, a manga you read, or a game you play. If you can’t harbor amorous advances to what you admire or love, that admiration or love won’t be complete. You really just have to do it, and it’s going to be done one way or another. Eventually, it would open up more aspects of yourself that you wouldn’t even dream of having, and all you can do is embrace them. From random pictures of naked bodies, you’ll turn into yuri, rape, and even guro. From stock images, you’ll turn to a plethora of preferred artists because they excel in factors you want like realism, cuteness, moe-ness, body build, proportions, character age, gender preferences, the illegal of the illegal, etc.
I don’t have a single piece of regular porn.
Madarame Haranobu (2002/12/12)
Now, some of you may be thinking: Shouldn’t we still have some sliver of shame in ourselves because it’s human instinct to be afraid of the ethically oppressive society we’re in? And if we should be afraid, should we let it hamper our burning fandom? It IS porn, after all. It’s something you don’t always see being talked about, unless you dive into content-specific sites or talk to people who engage said content. Hell, you may be even surprised that one of the prominent persons you know (say, a blogger or an otaku that everybody knows) actually has a hidden stash of hentai and erodoujin, and that’s regardless of their gender. They have their own preferences or even fetishes that disgust other people. It’s there, all the BDSM, the loli, the shota, the futanari, the yaoi, along with the people who patronize and harbor libido for them. We’ll hide them from the cops, we’ll show them to other otaku, and we’ll talk about them, updating ourselves on our current and new trends, just like what we do with non-erotic stuff. So here comes the next question: Does patronizing porn rob you of your last ounce of dignity and pride as a person?
Why in the world do people have to WAIT for the goods when you can get it NOW?
m3rryweather (2010/02/12)
If you understood and accepted yourself as an otaku (correctly, by abiding the “standards”) before you were asked, the question just now shouldn’t matter, and we should hear “I’m actually proud and dignified to have hentai/erodoujin/eromanga/eroge.” in about four seconds. If we ask “Why?”, the rebuttal “Because that’s how I love the character/anime/manga/game/eroge.” should come around in two seconds, maybe even less. Yeah, it’s kind of screwed for logic, but otaku simply think that way. We’re rabid, we’re obsessive, we’re possessive, and we’re free to think of our favorites as we please. We’ll humiliate them, torture them, rape them, amputate them, slice them, gore them, deflower them, kill them, and we’ll get off on that. Trivial things such as age, morality and gender will go out of the window, there’s DEFINITELY no way the porn will stop, and not even the long, stupid arm of the law can do anything about it. Or maybe they can, but not really.
Reality can never live up to a porn game.
Madarame Haranobu (2008/10/30)
Before I end this post, a tidbit for the mind: Media piracy, ever since the Tape Recorder Age, has never been exterminated, only defeated. And that’s little compared to how long porn endured such prejudice. Maybe because every one of us has a part that yearns for it, instinct or whatnot. Of course, there’s the real thing, but that one’s not my topic to talk about. Let me stay in my 2-D complex world forever, thank you and goodbye.
Oh, and don’t tell the cops.
Summed up everything I’ve been pondering for 5 years.
Good on ya.
As I began to delve into the world of anime I found hentai disgusting, but as I expanded my range of anime (started with simple shounen shows like DBZ, Naruto, Bleach) into things like ecchi and the like I started to accept the fact of hentai (although to this day I still find loli, tentacles, futa, guro to be disgusting and will never be aroused by it), and I noticed that I’m watching some shows based on the amount of nudity in it (like Kanokon).
I started collecting hentai manga/anime with the stuff that I like (Big breasted character are always a plus except when its “too large”) and then comes a time when I feel that my stash has grown too big that I feel some shame and decide to delete everything, but then after a couple of weeks I find myself returning to collecting hentai (sometimes the deletion is because of lack of space for other stuff [and I refuse to have a "hard" copy of it]) and the cycle repeats itself, I lost count on how many times that happened already and I don’t know if a day would come that I won’t be ashamed of what porn I have.
I agree that porn is not a bad thing but in reality, we cannot always act and express as otaku who are not ashamed of our watching and admiring porn. We are not expected to do so or we might be wrongly judged. It’s not worth it. Or maybe it’s just me who is afraid of being judged? I don’t really know…(-_-)
That’s being half-hearted, actually. I don’t have the grounds to persecute, but unless you accept that dirty side, you’re never going to be complete. We do have our morals, but when it’s within our environment, we do what we want to do.
Just be honest to yourself, that’s all.
I admit that in many aspects, I still have several stages of maturation to go through x_x
Don’t worry, everyone gets there eventually. You’ll just have to wait for your time, tell us what happened, and we can chat about it over a cup of tea with reckless abandon.
In another place I’d be horrifyingly ashamed asking this (well, maybe here too…): Which eroges are the images you used?? xD
I’m sick of being ashamed. I think one day I’m going to proclaim my hobbies, they are part of me. It wouldn’t be me if hentai didn’t exist xD
I apologize for any mistake I could have written. Spanish people do like hentai too xD
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAR. You have my support!
The first one is from a Touhou artist named KFC (no, not the one you’re thinking of). The second one is from a yaoi game named Pure My Imouto Milk Purun. The third one is from Kusari, and the fourth one is from a yuri game named Sono Hanabira Ni Kuchizuke Wo.
OMFG! I’ve been searching for the last one for years. I love you dude. Will you marry me??? xD
PS: It would be great that KFC (the original and genuine one xD) offered us this kind of service.
That third picture is very depressing.
It’s a good question, though: Why is it that one well-drawn body can be immensely erotic, while another, equally well-drawn body will be just boring? What standards are we employing in our judgment?
By the way, since we’re on the subject, just as a personal thing, I’m very bothered by “sperm pours into the womb like milk in a tall glass” shots. The cervix is there for a reason; it’s not just a gateway to be burst open in pursuit of pleasure.
Personal preference, I guess. I mean, Guro fanatics see something erotic on mutilated naked bodies while they don’t on something that’s just naked. That’s why there are artists that cater to such fetishes like Juan Gotoh and 774. The concept of “mind breaking” also brings up that issue, and it’s well employed in some eroges and their Bad Ends. It’s every person to his or her inclinations.
Also, Japan likes to fantasize about cocks as big as a horse’s, and breaking wombs with them. No wonder the term “uterus-sex” came to existence.
Straightforward
so after weeding out all the bullshit, your basically telling me that because i choose to wack it to real people porn, i dont truly LOVE anime?
even though i watch anime every night and blog about it etc etc. I can never LOVE it because i dont beat it to my favorite characters? I’m not buying it.