Flames, slapping, killing, stabbing, etc. Of course you mustn’t lose the popcorn to munch on while watching the drama.
Okay, first thing’s first, I’m making this clear: I’M NOT ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE. I’ll just state facts I see, and exact my honest-to-goodness opinion about it, so if it does BURN MOAR, extinguish by adding more fire. No, I don’t deserve your shit, crap, fail, flames, scraps, caves, armpitsohwaitnothatsnotincluded, etc. I’m just your simple wee little plankton speaking, ignore me or feed me to the nearest baleen whale you see when you think I’m doing it wrong, or if you think I’m just a total cunt for even bothering to meddle with this shit, thank you.
First off, it seems that a privvy fight went off balance, someone called in air support, then started a smear propaganda to ensure ultimate drama and lulz, which worked. Okay, so suddenly Itsubun is bitching about the R-R having some kind of a scandal because of a rumor that Sasa permitted some TRAP in their estrogen HQ, spreading the manvirus and killing them softly with comments of spermicide. That lead to shooping the whooping, email drama, doing a state of the nation address, and the death of an opus. Great, just great. The usual routine of girls being cunts and boys being dicks. Human nature never fails to deliver, but hey, that’s Anon’s line. Sorry, puny humans, you do deliver, but mostly at the wrong place, time, or whatshitnot.
Now, I’m not siding on anyone here. Not Sasa, not Itsubun, not Ra-kun, not flametards, not even myself, for fuck’s sake. I mean, IT’S THE FUCKING INTERNET. AND THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. Anybody trying to bitch their way to fandom by having a concentrated groupie that are similar in gender but different in preferences is like doing Russian Roulette with all the bullets on. If Itsubun was pretty much interested in that R-R, then she must some kind of HAET against males. See: WHAT IS A MAN.
On Sasa, I’m not telling it’s her fault, but I’m not saying she’s innocent either. Her letting in a TARP in the Garden of Amazons meant she cared less already, but that’s really her fault if one were to look carefully. At the very least, Itsubun should have approached her, tried to check her status, then made a verdict if she stays on her fortress of egg cells or no. Because CHECKING ON THE MEMBERS IS A VITAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LEADER IN QUESTION. Not being able to do that will cause security breaches, even without Sasa around. Sasa is a very liberated person, and knowing that myself is an obvious reason why I think she’s not wrong for most of this mess. Sasa, you’re really such a damn bad girl to be able ensue this kinds of lulz and drama just by idling out in one place and getting a bit of emo. Hats off to you.
To all them others, I care not. Itsubun publicized this, so it’s her call on the lulz and drama she herself set off, even though she told people not to go lulzy, which is contradictory to what she just did and is retarted in a way of logic. I’ll doubt people will run out of ammo to fire at them peeps involved, unless the R-R gets disbanded due to lulz and such. Good job on minimizing damage on your little heaven while destroying the heaven of another, Itsubun. YOU IS AM ARE WINNARZ.
IT’S A TRAP!
tl;dr LRN2TROLL
Dude, I think the rest of us have gotten over it, move on for fuck’s sake.
Let’s not forget that no manly lurkage ever took place, girl’s blatantly lying and stuff.
I’m out here, no interest in the fire, only in the truth.
Maybe you should discover the truth of grammar first…
Hey, man.
Woah, I’m surprised that you posted this, having never spoken to you nor interacted with you before. I do read your blog and you seem pretty cool. So I’m not sure where all of the animosity is coming from.
Look, what it comes down to is that Sasa posted up a very personal jab at me. I was shocked and responded in kind. And thus far, she has yet to directly reply to me but has gotten other people involved to argue on her behalf. So I’m just going to move on from this because I see no point in talking to her friends when she is the one that I have issues with.
Honestly, if someone posted up an entry calling you “the most despicable person on the internet” in a lame potshot, what would you do? Can you really say that you’re a big enough person to turn the other cheek? Or would you be tempted to “troll for lulz”?
As for the R-R trap thing, Sasa was one of my co-founders and I considered her a good friend. So I trusted her to give fair consideration to the R-R members before she made any decisions. Letting her friend, an outsider, see the private forum without alerting or consulting me or any of the other members beforehand was a violation of that trust. *shrugs* I’m not the type of leader who tries to micromanage everyone. So I didn’t see the need to “check on the members”. I wanted to be able to trust them and believe that they would make decisions and take actions that wouldn’t hurt anyone else. But maybe you’re right, that was misplaced trust on my part.
I don’t hate men. Please don’t misunderstand me. Some of my closest friends in the blogosphere are male and they’re awesome people. The R-R was meant to be a fun and productive activity for the girls to get together and share writings and ideas. The guys in the blogosphere are always welcome to add their own input by writing up their own entries to the topics as well. And that is what has been happening. Besides this dorama, the other members who have participated thus far have told me that they’ve been having a lot of fun. So I’m glad.
The reason why I publicized the dorama was because Sasa already took the first shots and aired out the dirty laundry to everyone on the Internet. That and I was tired of keeping silent and letting her walk all over me with her self-pity and angst. Go figure.
As for the other girls getting angry at Sasa BEFORE I posted up the dorama, that’s between them and her. I don’t know what exactly occurred that upset them, but once again that’s her beef with them. *shrugs* On my part, I publicized this shit because I owed the other members an explanation for why one of our members was leaving us and I wanted to call Sasa out on her potshots and ask for an explanation.
Anyway, as A Day Without Me has stated, time to move on.
Good luck with the anime blogging and have a good summer~
itsubun: And what gives you the right to add fuel to the fire?
In doing so you’ve made yourself look immature, as Randall has oh-so-unhumorously pointed.
Itsudarling, you’re lovely, where do you get this ridiculous stream of words? And why do you repeat the blatant lie, that some mantrap peeked at your girly-secret-forum? I have spoken to sociology-kun who says he neither heard about nor checked out (or was even able to) what was going on in your little internet bubble. and I have truthfully laid out my whole interaction with your forum-thingy on your dramashack (i.e. blog) already. Now give evidence or stop randomly accusing people. You know, in First Life people hand over big monies or get bumraped in jail for doing the things you do. Mind you, in First Life these things actually have relevance.
You are publicizing drama? Not really. “Fabricating through false accusations and overinterpretation” seems more like it. But thank you anyways for the massive lulz your whiny bitchfest created, I’m amused beyond words by this serious internet business.
I’m wondering why I went into real-grammar-mode just now, because you obviously don’t deserve it. Ah well, I’ve typed it up already, so i shouldn’t care.
TL;DR Get your facts right before shitting on the internet, or at least stop complaining if your own shit hits your face.
LOL STILL HASN’T LEARNED THE TRUTH OF PROPER GRAMMAR
I have meant to just stay out of this (as you probably can see), but there is one thing I care about: I have never let anybody into that forum. Sad, how these kinds of lies are spread, huh? I find it really depressing. Maybe if itsubun would post her logs, it’d help certain other people who actually care and not only laugh about the fact that I feel deeply hurt by reading these lies about me.
It’s true, I’m not innocent, I have disliked itsubun before she disliked me, if that makes me the culprit, then I’ll take that blame. But I can’t so easily accept obviously false accusations against me.
@itsubun: I’m also “surprised” at seeing seemingly random entities with a lack of an Y chromosome on my blog bitching at me. (Of course every single of them are your friends, tsk tsk.) If people who have never spoken to me bitch at me, I think everyone has a right to write about you and to bitch about you, no?
@DrmChr0: I agree with you. But oh well, the first paragraph of my comment probably explains why it’s difficult to do so for me. And believe me, itsubun will never understand why her attitude is immature.
And now, I am really out of this. First Life and things that really matter are calling me.
@a day without m*cough*you would be really great: ORLY? Examples please. Alternatively, feel free to shut your trap.
O hai, I r teh TRAP!
I was thinking a long time about whether to comment on the interesting allegations that our dear investigator itsubun so carefully researched. Personally, I couldn’t care less about what the internet thinks of me, I’m not a member of the blogosphere or any other community and my interest in what is going on in this realm of the net is purely motivated by curiousity.
But sadly, this isn’t really about me at all – it’s just using me to get back at a friend of mine. I’m really disappointed by that grade school level behavior, but again, my opinion is not the issue here. What matters to me is the reputation of one of my oldest and best friends.
So, without any mudslinging or any kind of derogatory remarks, let me get this one thing straight, once and for all:
Sasa _never_ let me in on _any_ kind of secret, private or otherwise classified information, forum contents, passwords or any other things of the sort. Period.
Frankly, I don’t even know where the whole idea originated. As someone else pointed out before, no evidence in my article suggests any leaked information, unless you count the general ideas behind the R-R which are known to the public anyway. I’ve dealt with similar issues before, I know my fair share about the ideas behind the movement and I wouldn’t need forum access to dig up a thing or two, or raise uncomfortable questions, or raise issues that may or may not have been discussed in said forum. Quite frankly, it would probably be easy to extrapolate itsubun’s private freaky fujoshi fantasies just by going over her blog postings, if that’s what I really wanted.
Just because someone raised the same questions as you doesn’t mean plagiarism. Just because I pointed out flaws in an idea it doesn’t mean security has been compromised. I fully admit my article was meant to provoke reactions. But projecting your anger about it to Sasa, who does happen to have problems with you personally, granted, is immature, inappropriate and just plain wrong.
Stop playing this card, once and for all. There was nothing going on with me and the forum. Sasa never told me about or gave me access to anything. It is an outright lie, end of story. Feel free to flame me all you want. I don’t care. I never did and I never will. But stop blaming it on others, especially not to get back at them for a personal dispute. You discredit yourself, you create more bad blood than needed and in the end, you just cause more and more drama on a platform that is abundant with it already.
Oh and if you want to talk things over, shoot. But shoot at me, not at Sasa.
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Yes, you are adding fuel to the fire. That is basically a fact in this case Shance. It´s your opinion and all, but please, let this be the last post of yours concerning this.
It´s hurting me to see everyone going at eachother´s throats over and over again. I feel sad for the bloging sphere who has to once again withstand this when it could be time spent on other stuff. Like playing games or whatnot. But this is sad, so sad to see.
Ah, I see. It’s not about proper grammar, you’re just trolling away. Forgive my ignorance, cuntbags.
Over and out. Even mantrap has spoken, no more lulz can be had, only delicious cake. I can has some cake, a’ight?
Marmot: I will kthx.
Impz: No, it’s TARP. TARPs are so bad they have to be mispelled.
A Day Without Meh: GRAMMAR NAZI US FUCKING UP THE HOUSE!
Itsutsun: No, as I said, it was just an honest-to-goodness opinion. You answering only made people RAEG MOAR. Bad move there.
Sasa: Well, you just stood there, at that corner, doing nothing while Itsutsun tried to scheme some “lies” up, really.
Milkmaster: C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
adventurer_killy: Too late, damage done already. Though I can’t possibly hate you for anything, I feel annoyed to see you somehow make Sasa leave Heterochromia even if it’s not your fault. Sucks for that.
HB: Sasa leaving is bad for my health. Sorry about bitching out.
@SASA: Okay, THAT’S IT. It’s time for me and you to talk. This back-and-forth mudslinging isn’t going anywhere. As for the girls who posted on your blog, you have to realize that they have their own personal issues with you from having interacted with you beforehand and from the things that you have posted. Whereas, I don’t even know your friends and the only reason they are trolling me is on your behalf. My friends are not acting on my behalf, they’re criticizing you from their own personal feelings about the things that you have posted.
“It’s true, I’m not innocent, I have disliked itsubun before she disliked me, if that makes me the culprit, then I’ll take that blame.”
*sighs* AND NOW IT’S FINALLY OUT. So you have personal issues against me EVEN BEFORE ALL OF THIS DORAMA, hence why you wrote up those criticisms about the R-R, and hence why you made that personal jab at me. NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE.
____I’m glad you finally admitted to this.____ <– Although the fact that you made this announcement on another person’s blog instead of your own or mines is slightly HILARIOUS.
As for the whole false accusations thing, I still stand by what I say. You have mentioned to me on AIM that you showed your friend the forum. If you had meant that as in you told your friend about the forum and the R-R or you gave him whatever other form of information, then you need to tell me that it is a misunderstanding and clarify things. I don’t have the AIM logs so I can’t charge you as guilty and I’m sure you’re relieved to hear this. But thinking about this logically, your friend wouldn’t have even heard of the R-R if you hadn’t mentioned it to him. And through word-of-mouth, you must have disclosed information that are detrimental to others and violated their privacy. And the fact that you incited an outsider to write about the R-R and criticize it as a form of sexism without so much as a heads-up to me or any of the other members or asking for secondary input [because of course, your own issues against me won't exactly make for a neutral stance] is why I think you’re being rather juvenile and petty about all of this.
@Killy: It’s highly ironic that you’re addressing my ethos [or the lack thereof] when your good friend, Sasa, was the one who originally had issues with me and made the first potshot against me. But I’ll meet you half way on your request and try to contact Sasa instead of continuing with this public trolling. Please understand, I’d rather talk to Sasa, the person I actually have issues with, rather than one of her friends [a stranger whom I have no business with].
@ Milkmaster – Yeah, maybe cyanide cake, bitch. Hope you fucking choke.
@ Shance – ASSHOLE FUCKING UP THE WORLD
@Shance: Sometimes I wonder if ‘doing nothing’ was the right thing to do. But just like everybody else calling for peace, I cannot help but saying that I wish for the same. But, thank you for caring, you have nothing to be sorry for.
Also, it really was not adventurer_killy’s fault for me leaving the blog. There is a correlation, but I wouldn’t necessarily say a causal relation. Really, words cannot express how grateful I am to him for everything he has done for me in the past, and this explicative comment is just one little thing amongst all of them.
Hey, Shance, real cute not showing my comment, huh? Absolutely fucking adorable.
WAHAHAHAHAHA itsubitch, you just crack me up so much! You’re the R-R or what? Egocentric is what you are. Roll around in your conspiracy theories if you have to, just spare us from having to read them, ‘mkay?
And that closes another E-Drama show brought to you by Bloggers International.
My opinion: I really like how an outsider managed to make the two interact together in a peaceful manner. As for what will happen to them as of now? It’s an open-ending so you can write your own ending.
I will rate this one 10/10. Everything started with hatred, then escalated to group wars, then ending up with “That’s a nice kick, let’s go to the comfort room and strengthen our bonds.” (Sunohara style maybe?)
A Day Without Meh: Your fucking post has been fucking barred by the fucking anti-fucking spam fucking plugin, so shut the fucking shit about fucking up when you know your fucked up comments are fucked up by a fucking plugin that’s much more fucking powerful than you fucking are while I’m fucking away.
I’ve de-spammed your comment/s now. Thank you for your patronage. RAGE MOAR. Hahaha.
itsubun: You do realize you’re so friggin’ immature it makes my blood boil.
Girl, if you have any problems I’m just an email away. And I still think Sasa wasn’t meaning anything despicable when she made that ’swipe’ at you luv. Honest.
Hee hee. More like Kyonko-Itsuki relationship.
NOWAIT! Lemme correct that: More like a Sasako-Itsutsun relationship. Sucks for tsunderelolihime.
How can people be fcuked sending emails to each other?
I mean, really.
Sasako-Itsuntsun fights occur either on emails, or MSN. I just had a taste of Itsuntsun talking to Sasa when Sasa and I were both on IRC and she came in on MSN.
No, I won’t tell the details. Go ask Sasa for figure.
Milkmaster needs to really stop kissing Sasa ass, wasn’t he the ex-bf of Sasa that was dumped because she couldn’t handle a long-distance relationship or something? Funny how the ex continues to defend her sorry hide all over the internet while her bf (read: currently getting some) Pip can’t be arsed to. Comedy gold, this.
The Anon above fails, everyone knows Sasa is back in Germany and Milkmaster wants to make up with his whore of an ex, and by “make up” I mean “get into her pants”. I mean, if you’re going to defend someone that dumped you because she found some other otaku in France (while she was away for a sorry year) to shtup, you might as well make it worth your while, right?
Three things about you, dear anons, are pure comedy gold:
1. You do know some things, a whole lot however you don’t know or remember wrongly and in consequence, fail miserably…
2. …because your interpretations (were bound to and) are hilariously wrong.
3. You’re both too much of a coward to identify yourself.
This drama is so amusing~
Now I’m just interested who actually is making him/herself the biggest arse in this thing by leaking completely irrelevant and above all incomplete “information”.
I’m out here, people wo can’t discern person from opinion/organisation just disgust me too much.
[ID Sojourner]
SO IS THIS THE BEGINNING/REBIRTH OF A BEAUTIFUL FRIENDSHIP??
You idiot Sasa, no one’s doing this for itsubun — I just think you need to be taken down a peg or two, and I’ve been doing this without talking to her, so she’s innocent. You’re obviously so full of yourself that you don’t know when to shut up, and I hope this goes some length to deflating that engorged head of yours. Oh and guess what, Milkmaster? I got my info from the horse’s mouth. Way to put a spin on things.
@Anon: Coward. I have nothing more to say.
Dear all involved here:
I realize that I am a bit late to this whole discussion, so any in-depth comments about the initial content, as ridiculous, flamewar-inciting and evil as it may be, would be ultimately useless. However, I feel the need to make a few comments.
from Itsubun:
>>your friend wouldn’t have even heard of the R-R if you hadn’t mentioned it to him
I suppose the Round Robin is not to be known except to its members, or perhaps it is not to be tainted by even a single male knowledge of its existence.
@Anonymous (addressed all together. why not?)
I’m not sure how you’ve come across this information nor why you felt the need to share it; however, I can add some more for you to peruse. I might as well release it to you here now that it is a manner of public record, despite your vulgar reconceptualization of the situation.
For one thing, I am in America while Sasa is in Germany, and our long distance relationship is being handled extremely well. Also, my absence from this particular venue was not because I lacked the desire to flame Itsubun, but because I lacked the time. You see, I was entering a competition with a deadline which rendered me sleepless for several days.
I don’t understand why Sasa needs to be taken down a peg or two, considering she is a relatively innocuous blogger. I realize there was this single comment directed towards Itsubun, but when you consider the amazing response, not to mention the internal discussions intended to mud-sling in the direction of Sasa, who really needs to be taken down a peg? Personally, I think it is time for Itsubun to fall back into her habits of obscurity and step down from this pedestal of drama.
Pip: I wasn’t talking about you, try and wrap that concept around that infinitesimal brain of yours. I was talking about Milkmaster, i.e. the one that your girlfriend, Sasa, was sleeping with before she decided to dump in favour of you, being away in France and whatnot. Capice?
I like how you think Itsubun should “fall back into her habits of obscurity” when you’ve been a pretty obscure figure yourself, known to most of us as “Sasa’s new bf”. Take your own advice maybe? Oh wait, you’re going to accuse me of being an Itsubun-sympathizer next!!
For the record, I’m one of Sasa’s “friends”, as far as her superficial approach towards relationships go. She’s unaware of this, but I’m one of those people on relatively neutral/good terms with her — I just can’t stand seeing Milkmaster, her, and now you barking like a couple of dogs, hounding (tee hee) Itsubun as if she’s committed a cardinal sin or something. Why don’t you go back to your phone (Skype?) sex with your gf while she sleeps with Milkmaster behind your back and he listens to Dashboard Confessional and cuts himself. We all know Sasa’s a cheating slut who wants cock, and the lack of penis inside her has been particularly showing as of late.
Milkmaster: Returning to its master’s feet after being kicked around for a spell, you are. I bet you’re getting some as a reward for all your chivalr-e, good job! I hope you like threesomes.
I see. As of now, you are out of my “friends” list, “Anonymous”. Thank you very much for that much honesty and on top of that, for showing enough of your writing style to clear other people from me suspecting them.
And believe me, you are far enough from me that I surely have never called you “friend” before. Or otherwise, you wouldn’t have to call me “cheating slut”, but had much more other information about me that you could *really* have spread – like I have on itsubun and her little adventures in the blogosphere.
@Anonymous
No, you were not talking about me, but rather Sasa’s perceived inability to carry on a long distance relationship; therefore, I was speaking of Sasa and not myself in reply to your comment.
I’m fine with being an obscure figure. My point was that Itsubun is using this “pedestal of drama” to elevate herself to the center stage. This was the portion of my comment you chose to ignore.
I am accusing you of being an Itsubun sympathizer, which is fine, but you might as well admit it to yourself.
I don’t think I’ve said too much to hound Itsubun considering the amount of exposure this issue has received thanks to her. I’m not saying Sasa didn’t instigate it at all, but when I compare the one line “pot-shot” to Itsubun’s massive troll-post, the result is that it’s okay to comment on her actions since she opened the topic up for discussion. Regarding our “barking” and “hounding” of Itsubun, please review this comment in light of your own actions and diction.
The rest of your post is too crude and indecent to warrant a reply.
I lol-ed. This drahmah was nearly as good as Swans Crossing. We just need a couple of evil twins and random actors in awesome soap opera goodness then coming back an playing central roles then later being thrown out as imposters known as ‘Jimothy Greenlake’…
TL;DR: The internet is serious business. GTFO it.
(Translation: These people are crazy! F**king save me!) All jokes aside. Whut?